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clutch plates
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:38 am
by weestrom05
The collective wisdom on the ca95 is that the inside steel plate is thicker that the other three. When I took mine apart yesterday I miked mine and found that they are all 60 thousandth in thickness. How important is it to have the thicker one? If it is critical, Ill order one from Ohio Cycle. If its not critical Ill just put it back together. Thanks
Curt
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:14 pm
by Spokes
Basically the thicker inner plate is indicated in the parts blow up and part number. I would assemble and give it a go. It may not matter that much. Sam would have the final opinion on this issue.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:59 pm
by Smithers
I would just put it back together and see what happens. I have a parts engine I can check to see what that one is like if you want.
clutch plates
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:16 pm
by weestrom05
the problem hat Im having is the clutch wasnt right when i took it apart. I hae found three things that could have caused the problem. first the fiber discs were glued tight to the steel plates. 2 the plates are all the same thickness, and 3 the oil that was in the engine resembled cold molasses. I think that all three contributed to the problem but which ones can I ignore?On every other bike i have had, bad oil will cause clutch-shifting problems. Dry plates can cause clutch problems, and I dont know about the plate problem. The plates that I hsve all cleaned up nicely and re 60 thousanth of an inch thick.Are they the thick plate or are they the thin ones? I dont want to do this over. Its a pain in the but and it at least looses a clutch cover gasket. Thanks for letting me rant. At least i got it of my chest. I hate doing job over, Id much rather do it right the first time.
Curt
Clutch plates
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:45 pm
by weestrom05
IN doing a bit more research, I found that the B plate is nerly twice as thick as the A plates The a plates are 68 thousanths thick and the B plate is 120 thousanths thick. I have located the b plate at Ohio Cycle. Im wondering if the reason that this bike was stored so long was a clutch problem. Im going to put it back to factory and see what happens. Curt
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:01 am
by Sam Green
Sorry I'm late picking this up, have been a bit pre occupied of late.
Forget the thick plate. In all my years I've never seen one, I think it might have been in a very early motor as is the very thick splined thrust washer that is listed.
It should be possible to check the part number against the engine number for which year it was fitted.
If your steel plates are in spec, get a set of new fibres, there are plenty about but beware of plates from you know where

Barrnett do a complete clutch pack I think. Any new plates should be soaked in engine oil over night before installing.
Sam.

clutch plates
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:52 am
by weestrom05
Thanks Sam. I guess I will be the first to see one as I ordered it from Ohio Cycle Monday. This clutch, I think was the reason that this bike was put away for so long. Every thing else on the bike was in excellent condition. The tip on soaking the plates overnight is perfectly timely as i was wondering whether to just coat them with oil and install them. This should be my last major project before being able to run the bike normally.
Curt
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:56 am
by Sam Green
Hold off fitting it untill I check my manual and parts book, I think the thick plate is used in conjunction with the thick thrust washer, I wouldn't like you to damage anything. I'll try to get back to you when I get home in four hours.
Sam.

clutch plates
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:28 am
by weestrom05
Thanks Sam. I wont have the B plate until the end of the week anyway. I have an electronic copy of the service manual and it calls for the b plate first then alternating the a plates and the fiber plates. I dont see any thing about a thrust washer though. Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
Curt
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:47 am
by Sam Green
The thick steel plate was only in the very early motor.
I can't give you the date it changed because my parts book is for the CB95 which ceased production around 59. After that, they put the motor in the CA95 and shipped them all to a place called America.

I wouldn't risk it if it was mine.
Sam.

plates.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:29 pm
by weestrom05
Im assuming that the service manual and the parts book are wrong then.it wont be the first time. Ill put it back together with the 4 thin plates. My only problem was that it seems that the reason this bike was put away was the clutch. The motor and transmission were in great condition. Even the paint still is glossy. That is why Im only doing preservative work on it rather than a full restoration. The patina that it has gained over nearly 50 years is minimal.
Thanks Curt